2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: O.o..... oooh...

2005-06-14 [Tear]: Like seriously? I go up north every other year, but I might be able to get my stepdad to bring me with him this year, because my dad can't say no, because I don't live with him anymore.

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: Fuck. I need to eat something so I can get piss ass drunk. *runs to wally world*

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: my boss is going to get drunk..... or is already drunk.. hmm, thats interesting..

2005-06-14 [Tear]: I need to eat something because I have got some serious munchy issues. I should get drunk right now, I am halfway there as is. *searches for all the wine in his house*

2005-06-14 [Tear]: 4 on my rack, and two half empty ones under the bed. Should I drink them all now?

2005-06-14 [Tear]: CHIVAS REGAL!!!!!!!! I have got to down this bitch.

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: I GOT ROLLING PAPERS!!

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: lol oy vey....

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: Alexi I want you to know something... I dont usually do this shit... Im in a sad mood, and I want to get fucked in the head without seriously hurting myself.

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: no i understand completly, no worries, oh and its alex or alexandra... lol sorry... no i dont mind, i know your spirits are kinda low, its understandable

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: So. I see Glen really left us. *shakes head* Well, I promised him I'll take EPI back to it's full glory so. Do [Firenze] and [The Axe Effect] from the current events section want to report to me as soon as possible. thank you!

2005-06-14 [Firenze]: You know I will since nearly all the articles are mine

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Indeed, and I've no problem admitting so. ^_- Ok, plan de campagne. We are straving for 25 articles á month. How much did you make Kelly?

2005-06-14 [Firenze]: 10, I am working on more today during my Journalism lesson

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: anything you want me to do??

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: I think you have done enough, thanks Kelly, now it's [The Axe Effect]'s and my turn. See it's fun to be secion boss and not shout on you crew ^_-

2005-06-14 [Firenze]: You know if you are playing with me you are playing with fire at the moment

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Check out the current events section Alexandra, and see if you want to join. Now what do you mean Kelly?

2005-06-14 [Firenze]: I am in not a generally good mood and if you want to know why pm me

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: sure where would you like me to join? ill join anything you want me to... just ask...

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: The current Events section

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: What do they mean with ''geek section'' ?

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: i have no idea....

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Do they tell me Journalism is a ''geek'' thing ??

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: ... umm.. i dont know joost.... but i dont think its very geeky....

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: No, so someone please clear this up for me.

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: its hard to explain.....

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: *feels a little left out* Well, I'll stick to my own section for now ... (>_<)

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Could someone please inform me what you meen with Geek, Writers and Fun and art sections??

2005-06-14 [iCh3wi]: I am wondering the same thing Joost, why is it being called "Geek Section"? I am not understanding this also.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Indeed, I'm still waiting on some reply.

2005-06-14 [iCh3wi]: I will be as well. Couldn't the heads of our "Corner" come up with a name? I'm not trying to berude or anything, but I really want to know why our area is being called "Geeks Corner". Is it just me or does it sound like our area won't attract much attention with that name?

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: welcome to the comic alex, i will add you to the forum

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Hello, has anyone read my questions?

2005-06-14 [Whim]: geek must have multiple meanings or something cause otherwise, that makes no sense...hehe.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Hehe... Indeed [Whim] I thought ''geek'' was another word for ''freak''.

2005-06-14 [Whim]: well, not freak, exactly, but it's supposed to be a word to describe a person he doesn't exactly fit in and may even indulge in activities that aren't a part of the popular agenda.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Ah thanks Brett, I still think it's an ''odd'' way to describe journalism.

2005-06-14 [Whim]: well, one could possibly argue that the specific reviews, opinions, and current events covered in the EPI are of a geeky nature since they probably do come from people who are of a geeky nature--no offense. But that still somewhat begs the question “Where are the ‘non-geeky’ current events, opinions, and reviews located?”

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Yes Indeed. well let's wait and see.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]:

Please direct all questions to Myself, [Solitiaum], and Della!!

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: The "geek" is a title that was made simply as a joke, no offense meant.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Eya! Act normal please! sheessh

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: lol, sorry Joost.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: ^_- 

2005-06-14 [Whim]: I don’t think offensivness was in question. It’s simply an odd title. I think people were more wondering if it was an official title or not.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: I told everyone renaming would help, they didn't want to listen.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Well, we are doing it, so stop complaining -_^ Hello Whim, I don't think I know you.. You are the paymaster, correct?

2005-06-14 [Whim]: I prefer the term “invester.”

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Yes, I like the term too.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Okay, you are our invester? I am not aware of the terms of this though... can someone please enlighten me to them?

2005-06-14 [Whim]: an invester is a person who puts money into something in hopes to see a return. In this case, I’m putting forth togs into this business in hopes of benefitting from the EPI.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: But, how? What do you gain? And How many togs? (That's what I meant, sorry for not making that clear)

2005-06-14 [Whim]: well, the first month, the EPI received a total of 100 togs. The second month, it was only 50 because the EPI got itself to the point it’s at now. And what do you mean, “what do you gain?” I gain the satisfaction of helping others. I’m a people person and a nice guy.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: he is! *praises whim*

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Hmmm... Well, hopefully, with the new managemant, the EPI can do better. Thanks Whim.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: *grins* you are the new management Stephen!

2005-06-14 [Whim]: we’ll see. Of course, it’s already apparent that the EPI will be skipping an issue this month--or the issue will simply just be lacking.

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: lol oh welcome to the world of pressure lol

2005-06-14 [~*spawn*~]: Er... creative writing's becoming reader submissions? Does this mean I'm out of a job?

2005-06-14 [Whim]: I think it means that you're competing with all of EP now, spawn.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: yes, could you lay the pressure thing lower, my section works their ass out!

2005-06-14 [~*spawn*~]: Ah, healthy competition. That's always fun ^_^

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: my sections always works their asses off, that because they know im watching them all o.o (lol)

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: I don't have a section O.o; I'm just an editor...

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Although, I may start a computer repair section, regarding simple things.

2005-06-14 [Orestez]: It was actualy because we respected you alot Fiona, not because we were paraniod

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Oh, since I seem to have endless freetime, even with the tasks I'm trying to load myself with, does anyone have any suggestions for the New EPI

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: *silenced* No.

2005-06-14 [Whim]: Here’s a thought. Look around EP and think about all the different entertainment available for use here. The EPI could benefit from teaming up with things like EP Trivia, Toggery, Giffie-Pets, and whatever else is available to make special exclusive monthly EPI events using these different media.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: *high voice* Ah, I only said this 100 times.

2005-06-14 [Nevermore.]: well, have a news page for the epi, like for the trivia, "new trivia winner" etc..i dunno..

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: We have that (news section) already coming/set up. Also, I like whim's Idea. I'll talk to the others (Hey, I work for Trivia, and the Giffie pets)

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: so whats going on what did i miss?

2005-06-14 [Whim]: no, not what I meant. No one cares about who won right now cause they hear all about that on mainstreet. I was thinking more along the lines of having a few trivia questions each month, a few toggery card combinations, maybe exclusive giffie-pets available for adoption on a first come first serve basis--things like that.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Hmm... I'll see about that. That would work well. Alex, EPI is under new management.

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: No it is under exisiting management, you have just joined, there is a difference

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: I meant with the dark lord being gone. You, Me, and Kate are the current editors.

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: Yeah.... Stephen... eesh..... Ok what do you guys want done.. De'la just gave me something but that is something i can do on the side.. what needs doing on here?

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Hurray...

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: Alex im going to post some ideas, inspiration hit me but feel free to brain storm, i have complete faith in you.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Hmmm... well, from what I have gathered from Kate, we are remaking a lot of stuff. Can you plase vote on the poll, if you have not?

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: I alraedy voted, and that sounds good De'la, but i can help rebuild things to while we are at it, i already started on two of the new sections and such

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: new sections, dela?

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: What sections Alex?

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Yeah new sections in a time we lack the current ones, doesn't sound to good... sorry.

2005-06-14 [Ellyn]: ............Wowww.... I missed a lot in a day and a half...

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: ok the new sectionis [Solitiaum] posted on here... the comment box yesterday check the older comments and go see....

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Hey, actually, can someone PM me that list of sections?

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: i will babes

2005-06-14 [Ellyn]: Oh, I saw them. I read the whole spheel.

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: might i ask why all these changes were made with no consultation with me, not to sound arrogant, but iam the assistant editor

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Yes, that's something I would like to know too.

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: i dont know, Kate just posted these and started saying what needed changing or something, so now theres new sections...

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Kate? ...

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: And I hope someone clears the geek with current events, before I do.

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: why are things being moved? if sctions are being moved bosses should be consulted

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: .... i must go guys, someone message me with whats happening

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Indeed.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Well, I'll try to fill everyone in, so please save question till I'm done.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: First off, sections are being moved, or removed. At the top, any section that says "killed" is going to be removed.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: The others refer to what main section they are being moved to, as they are now sub-sections. A list of the main sections is: Writer's Corner, Artist's Corner, Advertisements, Personals, Geek's Corner, and For the Fun of it All.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Now, as to the sections that are being Killed, I am sorry to the staff that suddenly lost their job.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Thus ends my explination, please, ask questions.

2005-06-14 [Whim]: Why are those sections being killed?

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: I have a question, how dare you call that section geek corner?

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: The staff loosing their job can be put on as part time i think, for when we need extra workers on other sectins, make them general help outs, dont just make them redundant, its bad policy

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: They are being killed because they are pointless, I guess. 

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: mine?

2005-06-14 [Whim]: Why not move comedy to the entertainment section and my situation to the creative writing section?

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Della : Yes, yours     Whim: I'm not sure. I didn't make the descion to have them cut.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: We could keep them. I know that we removed comedy because we already have comics, and that most of the jokes in comedy suck. (Sorry Kelly!!)

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: If someone not deletes that ''geek'' comment within 2 minutes I do. Thanks for flying with Dwemer Airlines.

2005-06-14 [Whim]: well, if the sections are considered useless, then you would never have to use anything done by the employees, but if they had something useful, they’d still have a place to put their usual stuff and wouldn’t have to be fired or shoved in the closet.

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: the comedy is not bad i find...any way i could keep it under the comic section as light reading?

2005-06-14 [Whim]: well, comedy and comics are two different things. Also, I think comedy doesn't necessarily have to be jokes. It could be just funny stories or something like that. Either way, simply moving the section into the entertainment section would solve all problems without stepping on any toes.

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: very true

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: yes i agree with whim, and plus you really should tell Kate to change the geek corner thing.. thats low. i think.. what joost and his team do is respectable

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Will do then. I'll have comedy moved, and not cut.

2005-06-14 [Whim]: as for the “geeks” section, I think that opinions, reviews, and current events are not exactly compatible. Sure, opinions and reviews may fit in the same category, but current events is complete seperate from the other two. All offensiveness aside, it’s simply just an awkward move and I question the reasoning behind it.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Okay, I'll tell Kate to get a new name. Joost, you won't be a geek.

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: ....whim you took the words right out of my mouth on that one

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: Ok. The term "geek" is used lovingly to describe someone who likes learning. Im a geek. Someone who finds current events to be fascinating is a geek. Its no reflection on the workers, and merely means that one loves lerarning... Like a nerd... And as I said, IM A GEEK!!

2005-06-14 [Alexandra the Great]: yeah.. geek corner... i dont like that at all.. it just.. its mean if you ask me.. no matter how good the explanation, and plus i dont see how those sections would fit that....

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Really want to know Brett?

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Once again, I am not sure of the exact reason of that. I'll talk with Kate over it. (Della, do you have MSN?)

2005-06-14 [Whim]: I also believe that it wouldn’t be such a bad idea to group art and writing in the same section, but still have them branch off into seperate wikis once you reach the writing/art section. Both would involve reader submission, right? So a definitive section labeled “Reader Submissions” would be good for that and could also include such things as “Letters to the Editor.”

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Only me and Kate know.

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: And the comedy section needs to come a LONG way before it can be included again. No more crappy jokes. Needs to be humorous stories, preferably reader submissions.

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: *goes to write a hugely long diary entry on [EPI Newsroom]...

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Kate is back! Good. That helps me explain things.

2005-06-14 [Whim]: killing the comedy section makes it seem like it’s being taken out completely. Just moving it and postponing production of comedy leaves room for quality work when that quality work arrives.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: So Brett , do you want to know or not?

2005-06-14 [Whim]: oh, sorry. Yes, please tell...hehe.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: As I said before, I wanted to create my own paper Elfpack Outside, real news stuff (you know what I mean) So. I asked [Solitiaum] first, because i thought I was stealing EPI's idea. So she said, make it a EPI section. So no one's going to delete that one.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: I have to go, dr. appt, be back in about 1 1/2 hours.

2005-06-14 [Whim]: wait...that doesn't really fit my question...lol. Or I'm just missing something.

2005-06-14 [Stephen]: Please PM me with any important information.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: So what do you want to know Brett?

2005-06-14 [Whim]: I was asking why opinions, reviews, and current events would be grouped together when they really don't exactly fit eachother.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: because they think their little problems are solved that way. Reviews should stand alone, so is current events and so is opinions.

2005-06-14 [Whim]: well, as I said, I can see opinions and reviews running in the same section, but current events really should be totally seperate from nearly all other sections.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Yes, but do you want it deleted??

2005-06-14 [EPI Newsroom]: Done with the diary entry.

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: so we can see

2005-06-14 [iCh3wi]: I'm not mad or anything, the only thing I want to know is when you refer to "Geeks Corner", is it just me or does anyone else feel that that name sort of dis-credits the sections in that area. That is the only thing I am worried about.

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: Current Events can stand alone, yes, I was rather thinking the same thing while doing that entry to the diary...

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: i dont like it, i really really dont

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Indeed, here in Europe it meens someone hole different, name it fanatics section.

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: The name wasnt meant to offend anyone, least of all the dedicated staff working in that section. It can be changed ^_^

2005-06-14 [iCh3wi]: OOOOOOO!!! Good one Joost, "Fanatics Corner", I like it!

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: What do you think Katey ^_^

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: And then current events can stand alone... But then opinons doesnt fit the section... :(

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: We have an officicial page called Elfpack Suggestions.

2005-06-14 [Whim]: Call the opinions section "letters to the editors." You'll cover several areas and still maintain the idea of having opinions.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: I like [Whim]'s idea

2005-06-14 [Ellyn]: Ah, I see we're reorganizing. It sounds good, and is probably well deserved.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Ah, katey, you took my idea on habringers, sweet!

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: Letters to the Ediotr.... that was tried, and didnt fly...

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: no it didnt...might this time though

2005-06-14 [Anonymous]: Try creating a user called "EPI Editor"

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: thats a good idea

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: No... all submissions go to the [EPI Newsroom].

2005-06-14 [Whim]: It didn't fly the first time cause no one cared. You didn't give them a reason to care. These people want to know that if they submit a letter, they'll be heard, which means that when someone sends a letter to the editor, you have to make sure you give them some kind of response.

2005-06-14 [Anonymous]: *agrees wholeheartedly with Brett*

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: The problem is we have been unresponsive before, we need to listen more rather than doing souly what we think is best. Consultation is always a good thing.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Like I said last night...

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: the problem is no one listens here. people are far far to quick to assume they are right.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: See last comment ^_-

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: and then when this proves not to be the point, the blame is passed about.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: indeed.

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: quite frankly im a tired of it, and i know i am not alone. so the basic message is, LISTEN to what is being said. dont ignore people because you think you know better.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: And I'm one of those!

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: the only reason i got the last issue out was because people listened and I listened, things werent going right they could tell me and I would act appropraitely, communication is the key. and we dont have any of it

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: the fact that people havent realised this basic fundamental fact is appauling

2005-06-14 [Orestez]: Enough finger pointing! Editors, form a clear plan on how to carry on, everyone else follow their lead. No more fucking about or I might have to come out of retirement temperarily...

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: as the man says, get back to work, we have a magazine to produce

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: No one even bothered SENDING any letters, [Whim], darling... But yes, Glen is right. We have a game plan, now we need to take decisive action TOGETHER.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: As a team yes. Hmm, someone made the ''I want this much work per section per month'' thingie?

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: possibly because it was never advertised enough kate. but im not going to stat nit picking.

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: i started it dwem but i havent finished it

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Ah, If we make that , we can check all work progress ^_^

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: Writer's Corner, Artist's Corner, Advertisements, Personals, Current Events, Miscellaneous Features and For the Fun of it All

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: Dwem, just rename your current events page, so that you dont have to reamke the whole damned thing. It'll make a copy.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: I'll make Current Events, it will only contain one link...

2005-06-14 [Orestez]: I'll be here for TODAY only to help get this up and running, lemme know what you need.

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: Dwem listen to me... Current Events doesnt have to link to the old page. Just RENAME the old page and youre set.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: I need one of your banners for Current Events. With me , [Firenze] and [The Axe Effect] on it. Please.

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: hello? am i speaking to myself? hello? somone can hear me cant they? *taps her screen*

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Dont t tap that hard!

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Great, thanks kate!

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: Talk to [Alexandra the Great]. Shes the new banners cover artist.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: Do I still have to rename all links in the copy?

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: oh good somone can hear me then, i was wondering whether or not i was stuck in some little box and no one could see, hear or talk to me there

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: No... we want this transition to go as smoothly as possible. The less pages that have to be redone the better. Which kinda tosses the renaming of the EPI out the window, now that I think about it.

2005-06-14 [Dwemer]: The Havoc Inside

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: no. the EPI is familairity, i think it should stay

2005-06-14 [Solitiaum]: Although familiarity breeds contempt, or so Im told...

2005-06-14 [De'ladrei]: hhmph we need better breeders then dont we ;)